#8PointstoPlay – Saturday Tipping Challenge – 23rd November


Officially launched on the champ.ie podcast Thursday night, the #8PointstoPlay Saturday tipping challenge gets into full swing this weekend with Colm Finlay (BetXS) the leader after week one on plus 6pts.

See Saturday National Hunt selections below from each of our six players with some mixed opinions on today’s 15:00 Betfair Chase at Haydock Park.

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Colm Finlay’s #8PointstoPlay – Rolling P&L: +6 Pts

12:05 Haydock – Glory and Fortune (13/2) 2pt win

Impressive listed bumper winner at Cheltenham. Trainer Tom Lacey wrapping him up like cotton wool. Patient and considerate of the horses welfare. Just read the quotes on RP. It’s his little baby and he must be right for tomorrow.

13:15 Haydock – Jarvey’s Plate (9/4) 3pts win

Felled the much-hyped Reserve Tank LTO who has gone on to frank the form. Given the way he finished in that race, the extra 2 furlongs should be right up his street here. How is he not a favorite?

15:00 Haydock – Frodon (5/1) 1pt win

Ryanair winner been given the task by Nicholls when the yard had gold cup options that could have gone in here as well. Bristol De Mai sounds like the most delicate horse in training and if Lostintranslation is over hyped, he could be the price.

14:45 Gowran – Star Max (22/1) 1pt ew

If there’s a problem with the first two he could pick up the pieces and even if there’s not I think he’s good for 3rd.

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Ronan Groome’s #8PointstoPlay – Rolling P&L: – 2 Pts

Bristol De Mai (6/5) – Haydock 3:00 – 3 Pts win

I’m not usually one to take a short price but an odds-against quote for Bristol De Mai is just too big in today’s Betfair Chase. The Nigel Twiston-Davies gelding is simply sensational around Haydock where he is 4-4 with an aggregate winning distance winning distance of 115 lengths. He won this race in 2017 by 57 lengths and last year he had the King George one-two well held. Lostintranslation is the up-and-comer and may well be the star plenty of people think he is, but he has to step up significantly today, especially on his two-length win over the 146-rated Count Meribel on his seasonal debut at Carlisle.

Highest Sun (5/2) – Ascot 12:55 – 2 Pts win

Colin Tizzard’s five-year-old looks nicely treated off a mark of 136 coming into this novices’ handicap chase. There was so much to like about his debut over fences, a staying on third to the classy Champ over 2m6f at Newbury. On figures that was a huge effort and it also proved that he stayed the trip really well. Today’s 3m should be right up his alley.

Diego Du Charmil (8/1) – Ascot 15:20 – 2 Pts win

Paul Nicholls’s chaser could be a little underrated after all the madness of his previous run, where he took out his stablemate and the reopposing Capeland when trying to run out at the last. The market is favouring Capeland this morning but I thought Diego Du Charmil looked on top before all the commotion and with similar conditions today – same course and distance with a fast pace near guaranteed – 8/1 looks big.

Vaniteux (14/1) – Ascot 15:20 – 1 Pts win

I’m also keen to back Vaniteux in the same race. Once a very classy operator, he lost his way for David Pipe last season but has seemed to get a foothold since moving to Sophie Leech’s yard. He won for the first time in 15 starts in Compeigne and then finished third to Saint Calvados in a good handicap chase at Cheltenham. He was raised 3lbs to a mark of 132 for that win but given his back form, that looks a mark he can win off.

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Andrew Blair White’s #8PointstoPlay – Rolling P&L: -11.3

13.00 Gowran – Sixshooter (13/8) – 3 Pts Win

I’m not quite sure how this horse isn’t currently favorite in the betting. The form he produced in bumpers is working out second to none and it was a nice effort on hurdling debut. He will need to come forward from that but I see no reason why he shouldn’t and is fancied to go in.

12.05 Haydock – Thebannerkingrebel (13/8) – 2 Pts Win

A desperately unlucky loser last time out when knuckling on landing at the back of the last at Wetherby. He was formerly unbeaten over hurdles and showed an excellent attitude for the game after being a fine bumper horse. Should resume winning in this race.

13.50 Haydock – Whoshotthesheriff (6/1) – 1 Pt Win

A well regarded young horse for Gordon Elliot, he took a while to get the hang of racing. He won two on the bounce before falling at Cheltenham LTO, he was traveling well then and is potentially still well handicapped.

13.15 Haydock – Midnight Shadow (13/8) – 1 Pt Win

Would have won LTO from the high quality Djingle and Hell’s Kitchen for not falling at the final fence. The stable form is a big worry but this is a high class horse on his day. If he sees off Jarvey’s Plate, he should collect.

15:00 Haydock – Bristol De Mai (6/5) – 1 Pt Win

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Barry Doyle’s #8PointstoPlay – Rolling P&L: -3.6pts

15:00 Haydock – Lostintranslation (7/4) – 4pts win

Appeared the real deal when stepping up to 3m at Aintree in the spring. Expect Robbie Power to make the most of his jumping on a flat track like Haydock and in a less competitive Betfair chase this year, this looks like the perfect opportunity for Lostintranslation to announce himself as a real Gold Cup contender.

Track argument aside,  Lostintranslation looks a better horse than Bristol De Mai !

14:40 – Rocksana (9/4) – 2pts win

She was the winner in waiting before making a horrible mistake at Aintree last time. Progressive mare last season and I’d be surprised if she wasn’t good enough to go in here against If The Caps Fits and Call Me Lord, who are both having their first runs.

14:25 – Mega Yeats (33/1) – 1pt ew

Lovely point to point winning Yeats mare who wasn’t given the hardest campaign last season. Her mark of 134 look attractive in a race that typically suits horses just out of novice company. Could be one under the radar for northern trainer Ruth Jefferson.


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Thomas Coyle’s #8PointstoPlay – Rolling P&L: – 8pts

15.15 Gowran – Conright Boy (12/1)  1 Pts ew

Potentially well handicapped off 102 overfences with an official rating of 115 over hurdles and did win a soft ground hurdle off 121 in Fairyhouse has size and scope to work off this mark.

13:35 Gowran – Midland Millie  (6/1)  1 Pts ew

Unlucky to be chinned in a Galway handicap the last day, the Arthur Moore trained mare is in again here own sex here and should be up to winning a race like this off 87.

15:00 Haydock – Lostintranslation (7/4)  2 Pts win

Sensational novice last season crowning off with his grade one win at Aintree had a lovely routine win in Carlisle to start his season and will hopefully make the grade in open company here plus we don’t want Ronan getting away lightly when this lad bolts up today.

14:25 Haydock – Mega Yeats (33/1) – 1 Pts ew

Point winning mare stepping up in trip on handicap debut good second in a listed bumper last year off 135 might squeak a place at a big price 33/1.

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Alan Doyle’s #8PointstoPlay – Rolling P&L: 4pts

15:20 Ascot – Capeland (7/2) – 8pt win

Coming to win his race at Ascot 3 weeks ago but to be carried out at the last and disqualified. Can make amends today off the same mark.